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why are you afraid you won't love her? Be honest, would you love her as her own person? this fear most likely stems from that fact that you genuinly think you won't love her, but you don't want to admit it. This doesn't mean you won't, it just means you thinik you won't, in which case, ask yourself why.
11:07 AM
I can't answer that, only you can
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Mind if I hit you up later in dms?
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I cam empathize, had the exact same fear with AJ, felt my love start to fade, thought "fuck what if I don't love her anymore oh god" realized I genuinly thought that I didn't, that I burned out on her like I do everything, but I realized this is bullshit the fact that you care about whether or not you will/do love them proves that you do
11:08 AM
@Deleted User sure but I want to leave you with one last bit of advice
11:09 AM
if you are truly freaking the fuck out about it, you probably care about her a lot no matter what, and if that ain't love I don't know what is.
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Huh
11:09 AM
I guess you're right
11:09 AM
Thank you
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no prob bob
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I won't say anything, AJ is right here and she's giving me her cute death glare.
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For Slow, uneventful days (which I have often) whats a good way to interact with a Tulpa? Since Im used to just playign video games in my free time. XD
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SteleTrovilo 6/13/2018 3:33 PM
If you have chores to do, you can talk to her/him while you work. Tell your life story, get her opinions on things, etc.
3:34 PM
If you're caught up on tasks, you can watch a movie or show together. If you can feel her presence there with you, it's a totally different feeling than watching a show alone!
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Not really much to say about my life. it was mostly uneventful. aside from school and such but, Its hard to really remember most of it. and after I graduated it just became one difficult struggle after another. Nothing in my life really that was worth revisiting.
3:36 PM
I usually work full time and live with my dad, while Im taking care of my mom. She does what she needs to to keep our side of the house clean but otherwise theres not really much in regards to chores.
3:37 PM
Going to massage therapy classes in october so that might spark something. but so far life is just either uneventful or stressful
3:38 PM
I don't even really talk about my past with my physical, online friends. XD
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I don't have a lot of time for routine tulpamancy right now, between my job and being in the process of moving. I've been passively forcing whenever I get a chance during the weekdays, then actively forcing on weekends. This is not ideal, but it's going to be like this for a while. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips for a minimal-time daily routine that will maximize that effort?
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 4:26 PM
@OverSavior I absolutely trust her
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Id like to know that too
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 7:43 PM
how to make tulpa
7:43 PM
i have no friends
7:43 PM
so i need to create one
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Hello, Azzy.
7:44 PM
I would be happy to explain how to make a tulpa, but I do want to make sure you are aware that a tulpa isn't a replacement for a physical companion of some kind... and that making a tulpa isn't a decision that one should walk into without serious consideration beforehand.
7:45 PM
It does require some genuine dedication and devotion to a reasonable degree - and you should be sure that you would be comfortable with things like switching beforehand.
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Switching isn't remotely required. You don't have to be okay with it.
7:46 PM
That's something to discuss with your tulpa eventually, should they want to and you not.
7:47 PM
However, you need to be okay with the fact that they'll probably be with you indefinitely.
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Switching isn't 'required', but being comfortable with the possibility should be.
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I don't think so. It's fine to make a tulpa if you dislike the idea of switching and never intend to do so.
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bduddy #Diana# 6/13/2018 7:48 PM
what if they want to? what if they want to try something in real life?
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#tulpa-discussion
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 7:48 PM
im okay with it
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@Deleted User I'm going to respond here for your questions.
7:50 PM
Your own consciousness will not be 'fragmented', no.
7:50 PM
The brain doesn't quite work like that, hah.
7:51 PM
As for making a tulpa, the method to do so (stripped of any symbolism) is to create a 'focal point' to consider 'the tulpa', and then proceed to give it experience in order to develop them (based on research into personality formation in humans).
7:51 PM
That 'focal point' could be a name, a concept, something that you can directly address in order to focus your attention on it.
7:52 PM
'Giving them experience' can be narration (speaking to them, giving them chances to respond for when they evetually do so), showing them the world around you, etc.
7:53 PM
Please do remember to treat them with the kindness and respect that anyone would deserve in the same situation.
7:54 PM
Particularly if you are looking for companionship.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 7:58 PM
im lazy to read the guide :c
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And you're not too lazy to make a tulpa?
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there's lots of important stuff in the guide(s) worth reading if you're planning to make a tulpa
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I've just described the entire basics of how to make a tulpa - if you aren't interested in reading simply that, or looking up and reading another guide... making a tulpa is certainly more of a commitment and quite a bit more effort.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 7:59 PM
it just seems needlessly detailed
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Not impossible, but unlikely. Be aware creating a tulpa takes a lot of time and effort.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 7:59 PM
concept like, personality?
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Even if you managed to make a tulpa very quickly, their growth as a person will still be a long-term thing.
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You don't need to make up a personality to try and deliberately force them into.
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You can, though.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:00 PM
what do you mean by concept, their purpose?
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Some people simply wouldn't know where to start or focus without doing that.
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You can, merely accept that they are a person and that personality is... really determined by experience moreso than anything else.
8:00 PM
Try a name.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:00 PM
so the concept of my tulpa would be a friend, an inward roommate
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It is a point to focus on.
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I think I would recommend against associating a purpose with them.
8:00 PM
Our system did that originally, and it was very limiting.
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they did?
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Something you can address directly rather than simply casting thoughts out to nothing in particular.
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Well.. it just happened that way.
8:01 PM
Until eventually I decided I didn't represent anything, I was just a person.
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And, indeed - trying to force them into a specific purpose or similar is like forcing them into a personality. It doesn't work well.
8:01 PM
It can work, but isn't exactly the best way to do things.
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yeah, you pretty much have to let them be who they choose to be
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The goal isn't speed either, mind. The goal is success.
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It was less that it forced me to be a certain way, and more that it eventually stifled my growth as an individual by describing me as a simple concept I guess, when I was becoming a lot more.
8:02 PM
Also, as we saw with Lucilyn, it is perfectly fine to have a personality and plenty of other details in mind when creating your tulpa.
8:03 PM
Just be sure not to try and keep them the way they are once they're independent and sentient.
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But, again. Personality is determined by experience more than anything else.
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All people will naturally grow over time, and that includes tulpas. (edited)
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:03 PM
im callling him asriel
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Never would've guessed ~
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:04 PM
lol
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Truly shocking.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:04 PM
so develop his personality by interacting with him?
8:04 PM
like the AI in replika :v
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Interaction is a form of experience, so yes.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:04 PM
a form, what other forms are there
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Imagine who he is, how he'd react to different situations, what he'd sound like.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:05 PM
okay fine ill read the guide in its entirety soon but indulge me for now
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Talk to him, and anticipate hearing responses back.
8:05 PM
Focus on the idea that another person (already) exists within your mind.
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You can certainly puppet or parrot your way to a tulpa or 'tulpa', do try to not make a habit of making up responses for them, though.
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That intent will teach your brain over time to do just that, be another person in your mind.
8:05 PM
I wasn't talking about puppeting or parroting, by the way.
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bduddy #Diana# 6/13/2018 8:05 PM
yes, listen for responses, but don't make them yourself.
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That's just getting to know who you want your tulpa to be.
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Indeed. Listen for responses, but no need to make them up yourself.
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Don't worry whether responses are from them or not. All that you need to know is those responses will be more and more from them over time.
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yeah, a lot of people have confused and second-guessed themselves by making up the responses
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Worrying about if it's actually them stifles progress.
8:07 PM
And obviously, don't assume everything is absolutely for certain 100% them either.
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No need to worry. No need to assume that all responses are them either. It's perfectly alright, and not reason to be concerned, to accept not knowing.
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Until you're very comfortable talking back and forth with them and they come off as very independent, you shouldn't hold them to anything "they" say.
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Indeed.
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Deleted User 6/13/2018 8:08 PM
soo the host will have less conscious control over their thoughts over time
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